The Batman Who Laughs vs Dreadpool (DC vs Marvel) VS Prediction Blog

 

"It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it." - Kreia

The Batman Who Laughs, the Darkest Knight of DC’s Dark Multiverse
Dreadpool, the Misanthropic Merc that killed the Marvel Universe

Superheroes are some of our most well respected figures, being called upon to help save the world time and time again without thanks. But what if these heroes were to end up being corrupted? What if, thanks to the efforts of a villain of their world, they were able to take one of the less physically imposing superheroes and corrupt them into horrible and insane monsters? And what if, through clever use of their technology, they then went on a rampage throughout their comic’s universe, horribly murdering every single other hero in their world, before then turning their sights on the multiverse at large with the help of other corrupted versions of the heroes they once were? Well, you’d get these two. With the blood of many heroes on both of their hands, which of these two could successfully spread their kill counts to include another franchise’s universe? 

Before We Begin

These two are a bit… messier to talk about in terms of media than even standard Marvel and DC characters. First off, this will be sticking solely to the original comics, so no scaling from their appearances in other media such as cartoons, games, etcetera. Secondly, given the central conceit of both characters is that they’re alternate universe stories, this does mean it’s hard to tell if the characters they take on in their own universes are meant to be as strong as their canon counterparts. However, both have also crossed over with and directly fought their main universe counterparts, meaning they should scale to the same place as them. The standard rules for that scaling applies here (ie: Marvel sticks to stuff in the main 616 universe, while DC sticks to the main Prime Earth, which also includes everything from Pre-Crisis to Flashpoint due to Infinite Frontier establishing they are the same characters despite the various continuity resets). 

Now, in terms of their arsenals, both will be given just about everything you could reasonably give them, with two major exceptions. Firstly, help will be restricted just to figures from their own individual worlds, meaning this won’t be turning into a big army fight between all the Dark Knights vs all of the Evil Deadpool Corps, as that would just bloat the scope of this blog far too much for me to keep up with, along with distracting from the main debate at hand. Secondly, near the end of his story TBWL ends up taking the body of another alternate dimension version of Bruce Wayne that had the abilities of Dr Manhattan, turning him into a cosmic being known as The Darkest Knight. This blog will not be acknowledging this form as part of the debate, for several reasons.

1. To access this form required specific circumstances and outside help, and as such TBWL would not be able to naturally access it in a neutral ground fight like this

2. It is very incongruous with his more standard portrayal to have him fight like this form, so it’s more true to the spirit of the match to not include it

3. In this form, he’d just instantly stomp Dreadpool, therefore making the debate pointless

Finally, mature content warning, as these two’s stories feature a lot fo blood, gore, and mature topics, along with them doing, to be blunt, a lot of fucked up shit. If you don’t want to read about all your favorite superheroes dying horribly in various ways and worse, then I’d advise clicking off now. With all that out of the way, let’s get into this.

Background

The Batman Who Laughs

“To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back. You see... a Batman who laughs... is a Batman who always wins!”

Perhaps no rivalry in comics is better known than that of the Joker and Batman. The Dark Knight and the Clown Prince of Crime have had many confrontations over the years, with the Joker constantly attempting to egg Batman over the line to insanity, believing all it takes is just one bad day to make anyone into a monster just as twisted as he is. While these efforts are usually fruitless, these efforts are still something that strikes on Batman, with some of his darkest fears being of what might happen if the Joker does manage to bring him past the brink. But good thing these are nothing more than just fears, right? 

Enter the Dark Multiverse. Ruled over by the devourer of dead worlds, Barbatos, these are a set of alternate universes under the main DC Multiverse which are destined to fall apart, as they’re created by the unconscious fears of many of DC’s greatest heroes. Of them, perhaps none are more feared than that of a world created from Batman’s greatest fear, known as Earth -22. In this world, the Joker had managed to finally get what he wanted, committing enough horrible atrocities that managed to force this world’s Batman over the line into killing him. But in doing so, thanks to a contingency that secretly sprayed Bruce with an enhanced version of his infamous Venom, something changed in Batman. His morality forever compromised, he now desired nothing more than the destruction of everything, finally having the chance to act on his darkest impulses. He had become something more than just Batman or the Joker, now being known as The Batman Who Laughs. 

He would proceed to take out many of the heroes of his world, gunning down his own sidekicks and massacring the Justice League. The more normal people of his world tried to fight back, but he ultimately crushed their resistance, killing practically everyone besides himself. As his world began to fade, the Dark God Barbatos would approach him, seeing potential in him and making him his trusted lieutenant. The Batman Who Laughs would then go through the Dark Multiverse, recruiting other twisted versions of Batman in preparations for Barbatos’ ultimate plan. When a mysterious doomsday cult from the main DC universe opened a portal to the Dark Multiverse after capturing the Main Batman, the Dark Knights would come out, taking over the Prime Earth for their dark master. He’d end up in control over Gotham City, turning it into a chaotic mess after letting rogues take over sections of the city and reshape them how they wished. 

The Justice League would end up slowly fighting back against the dark forces, putting Barbatos on the backfoot. The Batman Who Laughs would attempt to go through with an attempt to end both multiverses due to capturing the Over-Monitor, but he was stopped by the Batman, who had done something TBWL could never predict Batman willingly do: team up with the Joker. After this, Barbatos and the rest of the Dark Knights were taken out by Justice League, but unbeknownst to them, the Batman Who Laughs was not done yet. He’d attempt several plots to try and corrupt the world to being as evil as he was, whether that be attempting to poison Gotham’s water supply with his Toxins or corrupt various heroes into being his minions. However, these would seemingly end up stopped, with the Batman Who Laughs being locked away under the Hall of Justice.

That was, until he ended up manipulating Lex Luthor into taking him before the creator of the Multiverse, Perpetua, whom he managed to manipulate into becoming the right hand man of. He would attempt one more plot against the multiverse after gathering his forces, and was seemingly killed in battle by Wonder Woman. However, this was part of his plan, as he would then have his minions place his brain within the body of an alternate Bruce Wayne that had gained similar powers to that of Dr Manhattan, becoming the cosmic entity known as The Darkest Knight. He’d grow in power and eventually betray Perpetua, intending to rewrite the multiverse into his own twisted vision. However, thanks to the efforts of the heroes across the multiverse, his plan was thwarted, as he ultimately would fall to a powered up Wonder Woman sending his body into the sun of creation to burn away for good.

Dreadpool

“Well whoever they are- those little peeping toms out there in Never-Never Land- they’re gonna want to keep their eyes peeled. They’re gonna wanna see what’s next. They’re gonna want to watch this world burn!”

Wade Wilson, aka Deadpool, is an enigmatic hero. He’s typically a bit of a goofball, acting rather silly when fighting, and this does mean most other Marvel heroes tend to treat him as a joke. This is even more so given his ability to break the fourth wall, which is something most other heroes tend to write off as an insane quirk rather than an existential nightmare. Despite the jokes, he is still a fairly complex character under the surface, with him wanting to do well as a hero but never seeming to figure out the right way to do it. Despite this, though, one version of the merc with a mouth has shown off just how dangerous he could become if he ever were to go too far, that being on Earth 12101.

In this universe, Deadpool ended up being brought to a mental hospital by the X-Men, who were attempting to help cure him of his insanity. Unbeknownst to them, the mental hospital was run by Dr. Benjamin Brighton, aka Psycho Man, who had intended to use the hospital as a cover to create a brainwashed army of supervillains. Deadpool would be the first patient, and was subjected to his brainwashing techniques. But these worked a bit too well, as instead of bringing him under his control, this instead allowed a voice to come to the forefront of Deadpool’s psyche. This voice convinced Deadpool that those in his world were nothing but pawns to the whims of their universe’s writers, it would be a mercy to them to spare them of their lies of an existence by killing them all. As such, after killing the mad doctor and burning the asylum to the ground, he’d begin his crusade to kill the Marvel Universe as Dreadpool.

Dreadpool would take many lives throughout his journey. He’d start with more direct attacks on the heroes of New York by killing The Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, and would kill the Avengers by blowing up their headquarters with bombs hidden with Pym Particles. He’d take out the Hulk by decapitating him after he turned back to Bruce Banner, and murdered the X-Men after luring them to a warehouse rigged with various traps. He’d manage to kill the rest of the Marvel heroes and even cosmic threats like Thanos and Galactus by utilizing the Puppet Master’s puppets to mind control them into killing each other. His final battle in his own universe was with Taskmaster, who had been hired by the loved ones of the heroes he murdered, but he would fail thanks to the intervention of the Man-Thing. Identifying with Dreadpool’s goals, the Man-Thing would then sacrifice himself to open a pathway to the multiverse at large, and after murdering the writers of his story, he’d move on to killing other universes.

He’d kill many more universes, but his attempts didn’t seem to be able to kill them for good, as what Dreadpool wished for was an end to the continuity as whole. Every time he’d massacre a universe, another would take its place, making his efforts hopeless in killing anything for good. But then he discovered the Ideaverse, a nexus of many classical literary figures that inspired the  Marvel heroes in the first place, and he promptly moved his rampage there. By murdering the original characters, he would be able to kill the very idea of them, thereby meaning any Marvel heroes who were inspired by them would fade from existence. He’d manage to get far in it, killing everyone from Moby Dick and Captain Nemo to the Little Women and Tom Sawyer. But his rampage would end up stopped thanks to the efforts of Sherlock Holmes, who had been informed of his plan by a Marvel character who had sent a drone in after him, and would promptly assemble a team of other classical characters to stop Dreadpool. Thanks to this, Dreadpool’s rampage was stopped, with Holmes using his own intellect to regrow the Ideaverse with his memory of these classical characters.

However, Dreadpool was not done with his efforts to end the Marvel multiverse. He believed that, as the one being who realized his world was fictional in every universe, he was the source of existence as a whole, and if he wiped out every Deadpool in the multiverse then the whole Multiverse would go with him. He’d assemble a team of other versions of Deadpool, who would attempt to murder all the other versions of Deadpool in what turned out to be a massively deadly conflict, with many alternate versions of him falling. At the end of this battle, he ended up face to face with the main universe’s version of Deadpool, who was rather cross at the whole situation. The two would battle, with Dreadpool attempting to make his main counterpart see the world as pointless as he did. However, Deadpool did not share his counterpart’s distaste for the status quo, having long since accepted his place in the continuity. He’d tear apart Dreadpool’s ideals, which actually made him regret his actions, now feeling the weight of all the death he caused. Then Deadpool cut off his head and dumped his body in acid, as he had no intentions of forgiving his counterpart for all the pain he caused.

Intelligence & Skill

The Batman Who Laughs

The Batman Who Laughs was implied to have a similar history to the mainline Batman, which consisted of numerous training regiments from masters around the world and years of crime fighting. And he has more than shown his intellect has not faded after going mad, as he was able to take out many of the DC heroes of his world in just a matter of weeks. After becoming the right hand man of Barbatos, he was shown to be a skilled manipulator, bringing the other Dark Knights to his side by playing to each of their individual senses of justice. With the other Dark Knights, he was able to quickly take control over the main DC Earth, with him taking control of Gotham by allowing the city’s most notable villains to take control of certain zones. He was shown to be able to match both wits and fists with his main universe counterpart, and was able to manipulate Lex Luthor into allowing him an audience with Perpetua, whom he curried favor with. Finally, he was able to do a plan that placed him in the mind of a Bruce Wayne that had the powers of Dr Manhattan, which allowed him to become a cosmic threat to the DC Multiverse at large and was only stopped thanks to the efforts of many characters working together.

Dreadpool

Dreadpool was implied to have a similar overall history to the mainline Deadpool, who had some military service and years of experience as a mercenary both before and after becoming unkillable. After going mad though, he definitely was able to rack up an impressive body count with his tricks. He was able to plant bombs that wiped out most of the Avengers, and he baited the X-Men into walking into a trapped warehouse after kidnapping Professor X. He was able to bait the Punisher into shooting Puppet Master disguised as him before getting him close for a kill, and was able to take on Taskmaster in a one on one duel. After going into the Ideaverse, he was able to kill multiple classical literary characters, including Don Quixote, the original Dracula, and the Three Musketeers. He was also able to keep up in a fight with Sherlock Holmes, along with several other famous characters he had teamed up with. Finally, he had formed a league of other Evil Deadpools to try and kill all versions of himself, and he was ultimately able to be the last survivor of a massive war among them alongside Main Deadpool, whom he was able to keep up with in a fight. 

Equipment

The Batman Who Laughs

Dark Metal Visor

His most notable piece of equipment, this visor does more than just make him look like a rejected death metal mascot. He can use it to look into other people’s minds to see their fears, desires, and urges. A copy of it Batman made let him use it to predict where some cops were going to shoot, and seemed to affect his vision when fighting his doppelganger. The visor also acts as his way of staying grounded outside of the Dark Multiverse, and if it's broken his body will be forced to return to it, 

Batarangs

TBWL has kept his counterpart’s main weapon of choice, which he’s been shown to keep around in the standard slashing and explosive flavors, as well as special new ones which can act as a way to infect foes with his modified Joker Venom. He’s also been seen using them as a makeshift flail by strapping one to a chain.

Guns

“No killing” is not the only rule of Batman’s that TBWL did away with, as he is also fully willing to utilize firearms. He’s used machine guns to blast away his Bat Family, a sniper rifle, and even the very revolver that was used to kill his parents. He’s also able to load his guns up with Eight Metal bullets, which are strong enough to let him take out Wonder Woman in a single shot. 

Scythe

He’s not just used to utilizing ranged weapons, as he’s more than prepared to slash unfortunate victims apart with his scythe. 

Knives

He’s also shown to have numerous knives to stab things, such as these unfortunate policemen.

Joker Venom

He’s also hijacked his former nemesis’ most infamous weapon for himself, that being a toxin that forces anyone who is exposed to it to laugh uncontrollably until they die. While he likely has access to the original variant, he also has been shown to utilize a modified version similar to the one that turned him mad, which instead of killing you simply makes you lose track of your moral code and go insane like him. This has been shown to be effective on even Herald tier characters.

Black Kryptonite

As you might know, Superman’s famous weakness of Kryptonite does come in a few colors which offer differing effects. Black, however, is the most rare and unpredictable. He used it himself to drive the Kryptonians of his world into a killing frenzy before killing them, It’s been shown to have a few other effects, though only on Kryptonians. 

Dark Metal Cards

When invading the main universe’s Gotham, TBWL was able to distribute a set of cards to the villains of Gotham. These allow the wielders to manipulate reality to an extent, with the villains using them rewrite physics and turn Gotham into a set of zones under their control. Though their origin and how exactly they function is rather vague. 

Dark Metal Lockpick

He also has access to this, which he claimed would be able to let him break out of any of Lex’s containment measures. 

Demonic Horse

This is indeed a horse that looks rather demonic. Not too much to say since they show up for a couple pages and then immediately disappear without explanation 

The Batmobile That Laughs

He’s been seen driving around this abomination, which is equipped with a gatling gun and a sphere to lock away foes.

Books

He’s been shown to possess a guide on how to kill the Multiverse and a copy of Multiversity, which is an actual comic. 

How the fuck did he get that-

Dreadpool

Katanas

Dreadpool does share his canon counterpart’s weapon of choice, using his dual katanas to slice apart foes. 

Knife

He’s also utilzed a smaller blade, which was used to torture Professor X, slash apart Don Quixote’s eye, stab Ishamel to death, and cut apart Kaa.

Pistols

Dreadpool also shares his canon counterpart’s other weapon of choice in dual pistols, which helped him finish off many victims and even shoot Spider-Man in the face. In the above panel he was also shown shooting through Black Panther’s armor, implying he has vibranium piercing rounds or some other method of getting through it. 

Explosives

Dreadpool has also been shown to utilize explosives. He blew up the insane asylum he was put in, blew up the Avengers with some shrunken down bombs, used a rocket launcher to threaten Tom Sawyer and blow up an unnamed knight, and used a grenade to blow up The Little Women. 

Cosmic Taser

Stolen from Mr Fantastic’s lab, Dreadpool was able to use this device in order to depower The Watcher of his universe, before killing him. This is notable as Watchers normally transcend the standard laws of the universe and cannot die unless they chose to.

Pym Particles

Created by the original Ant-Man, whom he killed offscreen, these are special particles which can shrink objects. Dreadpool was able to use them to make a surprise bomb that wiped out most of the Avengers, as well as deal with Luke Cage by shrinking bombs into his coffee and grow Thor’s hammer to a size he was then crushed by. 

Trapped Warehouse

After capturing the master trap maker Arcade, Dreadpool then lured the X-Men to a base containing multiple deadly traps made by him. This included an indestructible bubble that trapped Cyclops until his optic blast exploded it, electricity to fry foes, jelly acid gas, a constantly shifting tesseract cube that trapped Kitty Pryde forever, and flamethrowers which were used to trap X-23 and Daken by constantly overtaxing their healing factors. He was also able to monitor all of it from a control room.

Carbonadium Sword

To help murder Wolverine, Dreadpool was able to use this blade, which as he says, is able to nullify healing factors. Deadpool rather famously borrowed this for himself in order to kill Deathstroke in his first Death Battle episode. 

Puppet Master Puppets

After capturing Puppet Master, Dreadpool was able to create hundreds of puppets of other Marvel heroes. These are able to control the actions of whoever they’re used on, which Dreadpool used to make them commit mass suicide. These take effect quickly, as shown with how he was immediately able to take control of the Punisher and make him recreate the ending of his own story where he killed the Marvel Universe, and seem to have a wide range, given they were how he was able to kill many of the Marvel characters that were off Earth. However, he did not seem to be able to make them himself, so he’d likely need to find another variant of the Puppet Master he wants to use this tactic again.

Harpoon and Rowboat

When going into the story of Moby Dick, Deadpool ended up getting a harpoon and rowboat, which he proceeded to use to kill Moby Dick himself from the inside after getting eaten by the whale. 

Hook

Another naval weapon which he was seen using to cut up the sailors of Moby Dick.

Dimensional Transporter

Dreadpool is able to use a watch to help transport himself between dimensions. While he’s only personally been seen using a watch that specifically only let him travel in the Ideaverse which he later lost, his minions in the Evil Deadpool Corps were shown using their own watches to go between Marvel Universes, which he should likely also have access to as their leader. 

Candlestick

When he ended up fighting Dracula (the Ideaverse / OG Literary one, not the Marvel one), he ended up using one of his candles to light him on fire. 

Pirate Costume

After destroying The Hispaniola offscreen, Dreadpool used this outfit to disguise himself as one of the pirates to bait the crew of the Nautilus into bringing him aboard, due to believing he was a survivor of it. You can probably guess what he proceeded to do to them.

Anti-Regeneration Ray

When hunting down other Deadpools, the members of his corps were shown to be able to utilize special energy cannons which could one shot other Deadpools, bypassing their regenerations. As he is the leader of them, he should have access to these as well.  

Katana Scythe

In his final fight with Main Deadpool, Dreadpool opts to use this conceptually badass weapon, which is incredibly cool looking and also probably incredibly impractical if you tried to make it in real life. 

Abilities

The Batman Who Laughs

Dark Multiverse Physiology

Worth establishing here is that The Batman Who Laughs does not hail from just any alternate universe. The Dark Multiverse is an alternate set of dimensions to the standard DC multiverse, which are created from every fear of things going wrong that every standard DC character happens to make. These twisted realities are doomed for destruction, and the total multiverse is far larger than the scope of the standard DC multiverse, though obviously this guy shouldn’t be scaling to the whole thing. What’s more worth bringing up is that beings of the Dark Multiverse actually have a unique physiology as thanks to the twisted origin of their world, consisting of not positive or negative energy, but dark energy. Due to this, beings from the positive universe who have a similar strength are not as capable of harming them, needing special Nth Metal weapons to be more notably hurt. Though this doesn’t seem to be a complete immunity to harm for him, as he’s still fully capable of being beaten down with enough effort.

Dark Magic

The Batman Who Laughs has also utilized dark magic, with him claiming to have scoured numerous tomes. He hasn’t shown off what he can do with this too much, but we do know he was able to use it to seal away his universe’s Specter, and he was also able to use it to seal away the Phantom Stranger, who normally has the ability to teleport between dimensions and operates on a different law of physics then the rest of the DC Universe. Though sadly it was not in the form of crystals.

Resistances

• Electricity Manipulation - Was fine kneeling in water as he electrocuted it with defibrillators

• Pain - Has laughed off numerous blows and got back up

Superman has stated he’s identical to the mainline Batman on a cellular level, and he was able to use a DNA scanner which was programmed to recognise Bruce Wayne. As such, he should likely scale to the same things the main Batman has naturally resisted.

• Cold Manipulation - Has regularly been fine getting frozen by Mr Freeze, as well as being in sub zero conditions

• Fire Manipulation - Has survived through various fire attacks

• Sound Manipulation - Has survived various sonic based attacks

• Possession - He’s resisted various possessions

• Mind Control - Has resisted getting mentally dominated many times

• Illusions - Broke out of Mirage’s illusions, and recovered from various hallucinogenic drugs

• Telepathy - Has resisted people trying to read his mind many times

• Hypnosis - Has no sold attempts to hypnotize him

• Sleep Manipulation - Recovered from a sleeping spell

• Poison Manipulation - Has fought the effects of the standard Joker Toxin, as well as a potent truth serum

• Empathic Manipulation - He’s resisted Poison Ivy’s pheromones, as well as exposure to an amulet that shows you your greatest desire 

• Fear Manipulation - Has managed to fight the effects of Scarecrow’s fear toxin many times

• Paralysis - Overcame the effects of a paralytic chemical quickly

Dreadpool

4th Wall Awareness

Dreadpool does share his canon counterparts’ most well known ability, being able to see beyond the 4th wall. While he doesn’t abuse it too much, he was able to use it to look at the audience directly. In said instance, it was also shown to be able to extend to seeing a version of the The Watcher, who are normally undetectable to those they watch unless they choose to interfere. Also, in the ending of the comic he was able to kill his own writers and threatened to do the same to the reader. Before anyone gets excited for this meaning he can transcend fiction, he explicitly was only brought there because his world’s Man Thing sacrificed himself to open a portal to them, meaning this isn’t a natural thing he can just do.

Regeneration

Dreadpool also shares his canon counterpart’s other most well known ability of being bad at dying, as he’s able to quickly repair his body from all kinds of harm. He’s come back from getting impaled, his head exploding, and getting ripped apart by the Hulk. Main Deadpool’s healing factor, which he should scale to, has let him heal back from having his heart removed, losing all his skin, getting his spinal cord severed, getting torn in half vertically, having his bones removed, getting melted to a puddle, becoming a pile of gore, and getting turned to a pile of ash. In fact, in a few cases Dreadpool’s even shown superior healing to Main Deadpool, such as how he was able to regenerate from Invisible Woman blowing up his head in seconds, whereas OG Deadpool needed several minutes to recover from the same kind of injury. That being said, more extreme injuries do still take a longer time to come back from. He’s also shown the ability to turn off his own healing factor, which is due to his will to live. 

Ghost Transformation?

One cover of an issue showed him being able to turn into a ghost to kill Ebenezeer Scrooge. He doesn’t actually do this in the comic’s actual story, but I’m still bringing it up because it’s funny. 

Non-Physical Interaction

Speaking of which, Dreadpool was able to murder the Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come, so even people who are already dead aren’t safe from his rampage. 

Resistances

• Pain - Has regularly been able to keep fighting through all sorts of pain

• Heat - Was able to heal back from getting third degree burns

• Telepathy - Was able to resist Professor X’s attempts to probe his mind, and made him go brain dead when he let him into it. This is consistent with Main Deadpool, who has resisted telepathy from Psylocke and Cable

Due to possessing comparable / arguably superior healing capabilities to Main Deadpool, he should also be able to scale to Main Deadpool’s own resistances with his healing.

• Memory Manipulation - He is able to regrow memories

• Madness Manipulation - Was able to recover from locking at the Protolith, a rock that makes you go insane if you look at it, as well as resist Madcap’s powers, which does the same.

• Mind Manipulation - A cosmic entity capable of merging consciousness with his own found it difficult to do the same to Deadpool. He also no selled Marvel Dracula’s attempt to mentally dominate him, during which he claimed he was immune to mind control. 

• Hypnosis - Was immune to Will O' The Wisp's hypnosis

• Poison Manipulation - His healing factor was able to catch up to a poison, and was able to let him avoid being poisoned from food he ate

• Petrification - He was able to heal back from magic that turned his body to stone

• Death Manipulation - Survived a magic blast from a guy that claimed he was able to cause “instant death”

• Transformation/Corruption - Was able to heal back from being turned to a vampire, and was able to turn back from being turned to a monster

• Radiation - Was fine being around radiation his teammates needed suits for, and was able to come back from having his face melted by that radiation

• Cold Temperatures - Endured hypothermia and walking through the Arctic for several days

Support

The Batman Who Laughs

Rabid Robins

Originally created by his world’s Joker through his venom, these corrupted children act as his minions. Thanks to being exposed to Joker Venom, they attack like wild animals, ripping apart anyone they can get their hands on, can act as human shields for attacks on him on his command, and they seem to only be able to speak “crow” and “bar” for some reason. He’s also added to their ranks by corrupting other Robins of the Multiverse. 

Also yes he does use chains as leashes for them because he’s fucked. 

Dreadpool

The Red Box

Deadpool usually has two text boxes he chats with, but in this storyline, both of them ended up being done away with in favor of a new Red Box, who apparently ate them. It does seem to be the representation of Dreadpool’s psychosis, as it was the one who helped get him convinced to start his multiversal spree. He tends to act as a figure that Dreadpool can chat with, giving ideas on plans and guiding his actions. During his time in the Ideaverse, it was shown Dreadpool could give this voice a body by scooping out part of his own brain and putting it in a new body, letting the other personality personally control the body of Frankenstein’s monster for a time. And after the Monster’s body got killed thanks to Watson, he then ended up back in Dreadpool’s brain.

Feats

The Batman Who Laughs

Overall

• Killed the heroes of his original universe

• Killed numerous other dimensions of heroes

• Was the first of Barbatos’ Dark Knights to be selected

• With the other Dark Knights, was able to take over the Main DC Earth for a time

• Kept up in a fight with Main Batman several times

• Became a cosmic being that was a threat to the DC Multiverse

• Tricked me into thinking he’d be easy to make a blog on

Power

• Broke the neck of The Joker

• Slashed apart a bunch of cops

• Crushes one of Mr. Terrific's T spheres

• Broke apart a tombstone

• Blasted through a metal door

• Knocked down a wooden door

• Smashed through a Lexcorp Warsuit

• Lex was actively baiting him into getting close so no this does not make him Herald Level

• Mutilated a group of Talon goons offscreen

Speed

• Shot Nightwing, Robin, Red Hood, and Batgirl to death before they could react

• Batman has stated he’s faster than he is

• Dodged through gunfire from a Lexcorp Warsuit

• Tagged Donna Troy with a batarang

• Tagged Hawkman with a batarang while he was distracted

Durability

• Took hits from Main Batman and Joker

• Took more hits from Main Batman

• Got up after multiple shotgun blasts to the chest

• Survived getting stabbed with several depleted uranium harpoons which are designed to incapacitate tanks, as well as getting shocked by them

• Survived being shot by one of Lex’s machine guns

• Survived getting slammed into a wall by Superman

• Superman was pretending to be bloodlusted and under his control at the time so no this does not make him Herald Level

Dreadpool

Overall

• Total on screen kill count: 221

• Killed the Marvel Universe (duh)

• Killed several other Marvel Universes

• Killed numerous classic literary characters, temporarily erasing the very concept of superheroes from existence

• Led the Evil Deadpool Corps, which massacred many alternate universe versions of Deadpool

• Thoroughly ratioed the Punisher’s own Marvel Universe spree both in terms of body count and writing quality

Power

• Decapitated the Human Torch

• Stabbed the Invisible Woman to death

• Blew up an insane asylum 

• Decapitated his universe’s Watcher after depowering him

• Blew up Luke Cage from the inside with microscopic bombs 

• Decapitated Bruce Banner

• Skinned Beast

• Decapitated Wolverine using the Carbonadium Sword

• Killed Marvel writers Cullen Bunn, Dalibor Talajic, Lee Loughridge, and Jordan White

• Killed Don Quixote and Sancho Panza

• Murdered Moby Dick from the inside before cutting his way out

• Killed Ishamel with a single stab to the gut

• Slashed apart several sailors

• Killed Tom Sawyer

• Decapitated Ideaverse Dracula and his brides

• Slashed the guts of the Headless Horseman’s horse, and then decapitated Brom Bones

• Bomb blew up the house of the Little Women (0.092 Tons of TNT)

• Killed the Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come

• Killed Kaa by stabbing him in the head

• Slit Bagheera’s neck

• Slashed apart several crew members of the Nautilus

• Killed the Three Musketeers 

• Killed Natty Bumppo by tossing him into Hua Mulan’s sword

• Shot through Black Panther’s armor and clubbed Robin Hood to death

Speed

• Shot Spider-Man in the face before he could react

• Seemingly dodged Thor’s hammer

• Kept up with Taskmaster in a fight

• Dodged the Ghost Rider’s bike- Er, I mean, the Headless Horseman’s horse, and slashed the horse apart mid run

Durability

• Survived falling from several stories

• Survived getting ripped apart by the Hulk

• Took hits from Taskmaster

• Got eaten by Moby Dick

• Survived attempts to shoot himself in the head

• Got impaled by Don Quixote

• Survived being on the Pequod as it was smashed apart by The Nautilus

• Got tossed around by Ideaverse Dracula

• Got smacked by a pumpkin tossed by the Headless Horseman

• Took a beating from the Little Women, as well as survived their house exploding 

• Survived digging out part of his brain

• Survived hits from Mowgli and getting mauled by Bagheera

• Got stabbed in the head by one of the Three Musketeers

• Took hits from Natty Bumppo

• Survived getting his hand cut off by Hua Mulan

• Took hits from Sherlock Holmes

• Took hits from Main!Deadpool

Scaling

The Batman Who Laughs

Batman

Ah yes, the goddamn Batman. The Batman Who Laughs has had numerous physical fights with the mainline Batman, and as previously mentioned, is identical to him on a cellular level. As such, he should naturally scale to standard Batman’s stats. 

• Survived getting caught in this large explosion (58 tons - 10.8 kilotons)

• Survived a blast from Quakemaster’s jackhammer gun, which can make earthquakes (26.812 kilotons)

• Has outpaced gunfire on numerous occasions

• Has perceived bullets in slow motion

• Dodged beams of light from Doctor Light

• Can dodge light beams fired by Malik

• Grabbed Joker’s arm “with the speed of light”

• Has dodged Superman’s heat vision

The Bat Family

Batman should naturally also be able to scale to the various sidekicks he’s had over the years. The Batman Who Laughs was also able to easily gun down his own versions of them, making this fairly consistent.

• Jason Todd survived getting hit with an RPG

• Jason Todd survived multiple nukes going off underwater, though he did not seem to be taking their full blast

• Tim Drake survived an explosion that blew up a warehouse (118 tons of TNT)

• Stephanie Brown survived an explosion that would’ve cratered an entire city block (15.633 kilotons)

• Cassandra Cain dodged a bullet inches from her face when she was a child 

• Barbara Gordon can block electricity from Livewire

• Azrael has dodged and blocked lasers

Batman Rogues

Naturally, Batman has been able to tango with many of his rogues. While certain characters who required more specific enhancements to beat, such as Killer Croc or Clayface, aren’t really fair to scale just normal Batman to, he should be able to scale to most of his more “normal” rogues.

• Mr Freeze has survived his own freeze gun exploding on him

• It can make massive ice blocks in seconds (1.883 kilotons)

• When ruptured, it exploded into this massive ice column (5.78 kilotons)

• Poison Ivy has leveled entire facilities and lift entire skyscrapers at once

• Scarecrow survived this direct explosion while underwater

• Deadshot can casually outpace Captain Boomerang Jr, who can outrace Mach 1 winds and throw his boomerang faster than sound

Other DC Street Tiers

Batman is typically considered to be the peak of the DC Street Tier heroes, with him and people related to him being shown to keep up with other street tiers of their world too many times to individually count here. As such, he is broadly comparable to feats done by other characters at this level.

• Deathstroke survived having a submarine thrown and exploded on him (1.29 kilotons)

• Deathstroke took an attack from Gunfire, who can blast magma to the bottom of the ocean (38.54 kilotons)

• Adam Strange survived the acceleration of being sent to the sun on a chunk of rock at high speeds (62.89 kilotons)

• Adam Strange has withstood the acceleration of Earth expanding at high speeds (77.61 kilotons)

• Deathstroke can move within a nanosecond

• Alanna Strange dodged a laser that was moving at “almost the speed of light” (0.622 - 1.119 c)

• Richard Dragon dodged a laser (1.12 c)

• Katana was able to deflect a laser (2.27c)

• Black Canary can perceive and arguably act within a nanosecond (4.3 c) 

Dreadpool

Deadpool

“Geez, can you believe the closest I’ve gotten to getting a dedicated Non-G1 blog is covering this asshole? How the hell did that happen? Is that Gintoki guy someone everyone’s scared of scaling or something?”

<ahem> As noted, the Deadpool Kills Deadpool storyline ultimately ends with Dreadpool facing off with the mainline comic’s Deadpool. That the storyline, as well as the earlier Deadpool Corps storyline, also showed the multiversal variants of Deadpool were comparable to each other, which gives further credence to scale Dreadpool to the Main Merc with a Mouth. (also no, none of the other Deadpools really do anything worth mentioning)

• Survived a large point blank explosion (5.63 tons)

• Survived an explosion that would have blown up the Hoover Dam

• Survived being flicked by the Hulk from New Mexico to Arizona (5.01 kilotons) 

• Survived being punched out of Krakoa, which caused this massive explosion (30.09 kilotons)

• Has regularly been able to outpace gunfire

• Gunned down a group of goons all at once

• Dodged one of Cyclops’ Optic Blasts (0.53 c)

The X-Men

Deadpool has regularly interacted with the X-Men, and while he likely shouldn’t compare to the more high tier members like Storm or Phoenix, he has regularly kept up with a lot of their lower tier members. Dreadpool was also able to take out his own universe’s version of the team through various traps. 

• Gambit can make explosions which blow up part of a building (0.844 tons)

• Wolverine survived a punch that launched him from New York to Georgia (as in the country) (333.5 tons)

• Wolverine survived a point blank nuke (21.7 kilotons)

• Wolverine has dodged and parried Cyclops’ optic blasts (2.09 c)

• The Optic Blast has been stated to move at the speed of light

• Cyclops himself has been able to redirect it within a nanosecond

Other Marvel Street Tiers

Through various examples, Marvel Street Tier heroes have been shown to be able to scale to and fight on par with each other. Deadpool has kept up with several of these characters in his various comics, and Dreadpool was able to personally kill a lot of the heroes on this scale in his own world. 

• Captain America can hit with the force of a 5 ton meteor (72 Tons)

• Captain America survived a relativistic spaceship explosion 

• Punisher survived a shock of 11000 watts

• Captain America survived a large AoE attack that cratered the ground (12 Kilotons of TNT)

• Daredevil has dodged electric attacks from Electro

• Black Widow has also dodged electric attacks from Electro

• Punisher can raise his rifle into position in the time a bolt of lightning travels down

• Captain America has raised his shield at the speed of light 

• Bullseye was able to dodge around Cyclops’ Optic Blasts (yes that’s him, he was taking Hawkeye’s costume at the time)

• Blade repeatedly dodged lasers

• Hawkeye and Black Panther were able to dodge within a microsecond (0.0103 c)

• Moon Knight can react to and dodge a beam of light (0.44 c)

• Daredevil can perceive and act within a nanosecond (5.6 c)

Weaknesses

The Batman Who Laughs

Despite his boasts, the Batman Who Laughs is not a Batman who always wins. For one thing, he’s rather insane, and while that tends not to hold him back in a fight, it’s still something that could impair his judgment. He’s also rather egotistical, as his intelligence letting him plan out all the moves of the foes he fights means he believes he’s above everyone, and he can quickly let his emotions go to his head when in a situation he hasn’t prepared for. Finally, his body is specifically weak to Nth Metal due to it vibrating at an opposite cosmic frequency to Dark Energy, and his visor being damaged or removed would mean his body could not survive outside of his home dimension for long.

Dreadpool

While Dreadpool does have one hell of a body count, he’s hardly unstoppable. For one thing, obviously he is not all there mentally, and his goal is ultimately to wipe himself out of existence, showing he has a deep seated desire to die. His healing factor is also not invincible, as he can turn it off if he loses the will to live, can take longer to deal with more extreme injuries, and he still needs a physical body to regenerate from at all, as seen in how Deadpool made sure he was dead by dumping acid on him. Finally, it is worth noting that a lot of his more impressive kills were done via more indirect methods, as a lot of his more one on one kills were against fellow low tiers. 

Before the Verdict

Spider-Man Scaling

So if you’re unaware of recent Marvel scaling discussions, you might be wondering why this hasn’t included any scaling to Marvel’s most famous street tier hero. That’s because Spider-Man is actually pretty consistently treated a tier above more “standard” street tier heroes. While he does tend to stick to dealing with low tier threats, it’s regularly been shown that he and threats on his level are above the standard pay grade of the more “normal” street tier foes, and he regularly tends to hold back against foes that can’t keep up with his full strength and quickly dominates them when he gets serious. This makes the idea of more “standard” street tier characters scaling to his full strength pretty questionable, and of course this issue is something that comes up here. 

Dreadpool of course has his infamous moment of shooting his world’s Spidey in the face, which I have seen cited as proof he should scale. However, as previously mentioned, the fact his universe is an alternate world to the main comic universe means it’s a bit questionable to assume this Spidey is as fast as Main Spidey. While the various Spider-Verse events have shown the multiverse’s Spider-Men are able to scale to each other, this particular variant has never ended up in these events, for rather obvious reasons. And that’s before pointing out the inherit questionably of Spider-Man, a guy who famously has a magic sense to let him know of danger, not being aware of or being able to dodge a basic gunshot is frankly rather ridiculous, meaning even if you were to assume this Spidey is as fast as Standard Spidey it would be a very blatant outlier.

But what about Mainline Deadpool? While he has had numerous encounters with Spidey, some of which have turned into full on fights, Spider-Man has regularly been shown to be superior to him. They’ve had inconclusive fights which still had Spider-Man holding a clear advantage, a fight where Spidey solidly wins, and a fight when Deadpool was brainwashed that Spidey, again, solidly wins. Most blatantly, there’s this fight, where a Spider-Man that was rather cross at Wade’s believed actions ended up very blatantly dominating him in a fight. While Deadpool was mentally not all there in that fight, this is still a very clear demonstration that a serious Spider-Man is above Deadpool’s pay grade. There was also a time where he was able to shoot Peter Parker to death (twice), but in that case, not only was it a very sudden sneak attack, he had earlier had a succubus mess with Spidey’s mind to make sure he wouldn’t interfere with him killing “Peter Parker”, which disoriented him to the point where Peter’s soul wasn’t even aware he was dead at first. So it is very consistent that Deadpool is below Spider-Man’s full strength, as he rather consistently loses fights to him, and the few cases of him getting it over on him required extenuating circumstances. 

That Other Time Deadpool Killed The Marvel Universe

There does exist a second storyline that features Deadpool killing a bunch of Marvel Heroes, which is the creatively titled Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe Again. The Deadpool of this storyline does show multiple neat tricks, including using Medusa’s head to petrify the Asgardian heroes, using the Venom symbiote to eat Spider-Man, and grafting Ultron to his skin to use as armor to take out the Avengers. So why was none of this included? Well, that’s because this Deadpool that killed the Marvel Universe is not the same as the main Deadpool that killed the Marvel Universe that’s being focused on here. This page pretty clearly implies that this Deadpool is meant to be the Deadpool of Earth 807128, aka the universe of the Old Man Logan storyline. While there are a couple inconsistencies with how that storyline established the universe and this comic’s events, the comic does imply this can be explained as due to this Deadpool’s fractured sense of reality, and even if you don’t buy this being that same world, it’s still very clearly not meant to be the same world as the original Dreadpool’s storyline. This particular Deadpool is also pretty different from Dreadpool as a character, as his reason for snapping was due to being brainwashed with codewords, he actively dissociates when killing, as opposed to Dreadpool who was fully aware the whole time, and he even ends the story intending to atone for his actions by killing all the villains. So I don’t really think it would be reasonable to composite the two characters, as while they are similar conceptually, both take the initial premise of “Deadpool goes crazy and kills all the Marvel heroes” and diverge in pretty different directions. I opted to stick to the main Dreadpool here, both because he has more to work with and therefore has more of a shot against TBWL, and because he is the character that people are thinking of when they compare TBWL to a Deadpool killing the Marvel universe. 

Verdict

Stats

The stats section won’t be quite as in depth as usual, as the general stat comparison of Marvel and DC street tiers has been fairly well documented by many blogs at this point and I don’t have too much to add. For strength and durability, both can scale to a variety of attacks that are able to destroy buildings, and at their peaks both can pretty consistently get in the low kiloton range, which puts them at town level. When directly comparing the two’s best feats, Dreadpool can scale to Main Deadpool’s feat of surviving getting punched out of Krakoa hard enough to cause a big explosion, which gets up to 30.9 kilotons and is in line with feats from Captain America and Wolverine that get to a similar level. The Batman Who Laughs scales to similar feats from Batman, Stephanie Brown, and Deathstroke, but can also surpass them thanks to scaling to Adam Strange, whose feats of surviving getting tossed around on a meteor and the earth growing around him put him at 62.89 - 77.6 kilotons. This would make the Batman Who Laughs about 2.5 times stronger than Dreadpool. You could argue this is higher because Batman should be upscaling from Adam Strange, as he can handle Adam Strange’s enemies easily while Strange struggles to deal with Gotham thugs, but given he’s also directly stated he’s physically stronger than TBWL that should likely cancel itself out. There’s also more questionable feats for the two I could mention, but this one was already kinda hell to research and I don’t want this to turn into a long argument about stats, so I won’t. As such, The Batman Who Laughs should be slightly stronger than Dreadpool, though not by a huge enough margin Dreadpool couldn’t keep up.

As for speed, both of their main counterparts have shown many cases of casual bullet timing, so they both could certainly outpace a lot of each other’s guns. They also could pretty reliably scale to various electric attacks and even the relativistic to faster than light range, thanks to both worlds having a lot of cases of street tiers dodging light speed projectiles and reacting in short time frames. To directly compare each other’s best feats with equal leeway, TBWL can scale to Black Canary, who can perceive and act in a nanosecond at about 4.3 times the speed of light, whereas Dreadpool scales to Daredevil being able to do the same at about 5.6 times the speed of light. This does make Dreadpool slightly faster, though you can argue TBWL being stated as being faster than Batman means he’s upscaling from his own feat to an unknown degree. Though it should still be reliably in the same range as Daredevil’s feat, so I’m marking down their speeds as about equal.

Arsenal & Abilities

Now naturally both of the two have quite a few toys to toss at each other, as both had a variety of sharp melee weapons, guns, and explosives to try and kill each other with, but given both of their physiologies it was unlikely to come down to just those. Both also had quite a few tools that would be less effective on their opponent. For Dreadpool, his regeneration negating weapons didn’t really mean much given TBWL doesn’t have a healing factor, and the puppets were unlikely to be a good win condition given his opponent is not from the Marvel universe. Meanwhile, Dreadpool’s regeneration being able to heal though toxic poisons and radiation meant the Joker Venom wouldn't be able to put him down, his book on killing the multiverse was unlikely to offer any helpful tips given the different multiverse is opponent is from, and stuff like the Black Kryptonite and lockpick were too situational to really be a factor. 

Dreadpool did have a few tools which would be very useful. Most notably, his dimensional teleporter could let him control the flow of the fight and move it to a different situation whenever he wanted. He could potentially use this to take the fight back to his home dimension, more specifically his trapped warehouse, in which he could potentially toss him into some deadly situations like the jelly acid room or trapping him forever in a prism. His explosives also meant he’d generally be fighting with better AOE, unlike TBWL whose tools were a lot more focused on one on one fights. The Pym particles could also give him an arguable way to take out TBWL by shrinking away either his equipment or his body, leaving him either a state that would be easier to deal with or straight up removing him from the battle altogether. And his natural resistances to telepathy meant the visor was unlikely to be able to correctly predict his actions. Finally, his Cosmic Taser being able to depower the Watcher to the point where he could be interacted with could offer him a way to counter the Dark Multiverse’ protection from harm, though this was a bit more arguable given the vague nature of how the Taser works. 

Though The Batman Who Laughs also had his own edges with his own arsenal. First off, while he surprisingly lacked a way to go through dimensions on his own, he did have better mobility options thanks to his horse and Batmobile, which could both give him a way to take advantage of Dreadpool being stuck on foot. He also had an easy way of taking the numbers edge thanks to the Rabid Robins, which could certainly raise a lot of chaos and keep Dreadpool on his toes, though their low intelligence did mean Dreadpool was likely to quickly deal with them. Moving on from that grimness, he also had access to Eight Metal bullets, which would likely do a lot of damage to Dreadpool in a single shot due to being able to take down Herald tier characters like Wonder Woman. More dangerously, his Dark Metal Cards being able to warp reality would definitely be able to put Dreadpool in a pickle, though their vague nature in warping the space did make it more arguable, and the fact he only ever used them when he was allied with Barbatos could suggest they’re not really “standard”, but them being a potential card on the table was not good for Dreadpool’s chances. Finally, his dark magic sealing was something that Dreadpool would have no shot of countering if it was to be pulled off. Even the dimensional teleporter wouldn’t really help, as not only has it contained characters who are naturally able to teleport between dimensions like the Phantom Stranger, which suggests it’s inescapable to even that, the fact the watch is a physical object meant TBWL could conceivably just cut off the arm that had the watch and then trap him, making it definitively inescapable.

Now both of the two did have an insane amount of survivability given how much pain they can push through to keep fighting. Dreadpool’s regeneration did mean he had better survivability on paper, though his mentality could hinder this, and TBWL could hypothetically steal Dreadpool’s own durability negating equipment to use on him. And TBWL’s naturally durability edge and the arguable nature of the Cosmic Taser countering his physiology meant it was far more of an uphill battle for Dreadpool to deal significant damage to TBWL than vice versa. And overall the win conditions for TBWL required a lot less legwork to actually end the battle than Dreadpool’s. Dreadpool winning would be reliant on things like trying to pull TBWL into his home dimension to take him to a trapped warehouse or using Pym Particles, something he really only used once, in a way he never really was shown to have used them. Meanwhile, using his cards to reality warp him into a trap or using magic to seal him were far simpler methods of taking Dreadpool out of commission. While it’s unclear if either could reliably kill Dreadpool on their own, they would definitely be fully capable of leaving him in a position where he’d be helpless to stop TBWL from taking all the time he needs to figure out a way to take him out for good. Whether that be tearing down his mentality with words to make him lose the will to live, using his own regeneration negating weapons against him, finding some method to deal with it otherwise, or just leaving him trapped forever. The Batman Who Laughs simply had the more solid methods to take the win here.

Tertiary Factors

Now both are definitely plenty crafty, able to outwit entire universes of heroes to kill them several times over. But when it came to raw intelligence, there wasn’t much of a question Dreadpool was a bit outmatched. He is certainly plenty intelligent, but you know, he’s not Batman levels of smart. Meanwhile, the Batman Who Laughs is. Not just in the literal sense of being a Batman that turned evil, he also has shown himself to be an intellectual match for Batman plenty of times. He also has shown generally better showings of manipulation, as while both have taken on plenty of intelligent heroes in their times, with Dreadpool his outsmarting was more limited to just figuring out the methods he needed to get the drop on them rather than actively manipulating the heroes themselves. Meanwhile, The Batman Who Laughs has been shown to be a lot more actively manipulative, being able to trick his fellow Dark Knights, geniuses like Main Batman and Lex Luthor, and even the cosmic entity Perpetua, so if either of these two were going to be able to outwit the other, it was more likely to be him. Finally, in terms of combat intelligence, while Dreadpool can certainly hold his own against many skilled opponents, TBWL just has far better potential, given again, he’s the goddamn Batman, who has mastered multiple martial arts and is rather well known for his skill in fighting. You can even see this when considering their track records against their canon counterparts, given that Dreadpool had a single brief battle with Deadpool that ultimately ended with him losing, whereas TBWL has had multiple fights with Batman in which they’re more portrayed as equals.

To get more to discussing explicit weaknesses, their mutual insanities were unlikely to be that big a hindrance to each other, but Dreadpool’s issues were a lot more potentially damning. His regeneration being tied to his already somewhat low will to live meant that someone as manipulative as TBWL could easily tear him down enough to make the kill easy. Meanwhile, TWBL’s physical weaknesses were unlikely to come into play due to Dreadpool lacking access to Nth Metal and not having an easy way to be aware of his visor being a weak spot, and his tendency to panic when in situations he can’t plan for was unlikely to be a huge issue given his intelligence edge meaning there wasn’t much of a chance he’d be in such a situation in the first place.

Finally, let’s talk a bit about the red box. Now I don’t think it can actively provide too much support, as Dreadpool trying to find a second body in the middle of the battle to put his brain in was pretty unlikely, and it also was unlikely to be smarter than Batman. But given The Batman Who Laughs’ visor can read thoughts, the box could arguably make it so he’d inadvertently go brain dead on hearing his thoughts, much like Professor X did. However, that was fairly questionable as a conclusion. For one thing, Professor X going brain dead was implied to be more from the shock of finding out his existence was fictional rather that directly an ability of the telepathy in general, so the already very insane and nihilistic Batman Who Laughs learning of it was unlikely to be as big a shock to the system. Even ignoring that, The Batman Who Laughs’ visor is not telepathy in the more general sense, but rather is viewing the darker impulses of people and predicting their actions based on that, so it likely would not be able to expose that kind of inner thoughts to TBWL to make him go brain dead. At best, the red box might be able to help distract TBWL with his thoughts, similar to how it affected Taskmaster when he started to copy Dreadpool’s movements, but this is all so hypothetical and not that impactful in the long run that it’s not worth breaking down in much more detail.

Conclusion

“Batman has always been a reactionary idea. He was born in response to those gunshots in the alley. And just as he is a reaction, so too are the twisted Batmen of the dark. Even the most dominant is still a reaction to some fear that has shaped him, built him into a newer, crueler incarnation, perfectly designed to overcome it. Now, understand this, I know that I am not a Batman of any kind. Not a Batman Who Laughs, not a Batmanhattan, not even a culmination of all dark Batmen. I am more. And to be more, I must not be a reaction. I must be the thing that creates the reaction. I will be the bullet. The multiverse will be the dark alley. And its worlds will fall like pearls before me.”

Advantages:

• Slightly stronger physically

• Equivalent in speed

• Equal in terms of standard weaponry 

• Better mobility and can take the numbers advantage

• Could permanently incapacitate Dreadpool with cards or sealing

• Smarter and more experienced

• Less exploitable weaknesses

• Is in Fortnite and Multiversus

Disadvantages:

• Lacked dimensional transport capabilities and had lesser AOE

• Physiology was arguably countered by the Cosmic Taser

• Potentially vulnerable to certain methods of getting taken out

• Visor could arguably not predict Dreadpool’s movements

• Has one of the most edgy designs ever

“You’re right! This is my day! All these years, everyone thought I was just a lovable goofball... a homicidal goofball, sure, but a goofball just the same... but I can see through all the bullshit and see the world how it really is! All the senseless deaths... the resurrections only to be killed again... the freak mutations... the cosmic rays… the chemical disasters... the unrequited loves... the secret wars... the secret invasions... the hero's journey is about pain! Don’t you get it? We’re puppets. And Gepetto’s feeding us through the wood chipper for shits and giggles! I can save us all from this endless cycle of continuity”

Advantages:

• Equivalent in speed

• Equal in terms of standard weaponry 

• Had dimensional transport and better AOE

• Could arguably counter TBWL’s physiology with Cosmic Taser

• Could not have his actions predicted by TBWL’s visor

• Far more pleasant to research

Disadvantages:

• Slightly weaker physically

• Worse mobility and could be put at a numbers disadvantage

• Could get permanently incapacitated with cards or sealing

• Not as smart or experienced

• More exploitable weaknesses

• Has yet to make any kind of appearance outside of the comics

Both of these heroes turned monsters have a lot of tricks and counters which they could pull on the other, and in a couple situations Dreadpool could likely figure out a way to make this Batman stop laughing. But between his superior options and greater intellect, the far more likely result here would end in the favor of the Batman Who Laughs. This was simply a night far too dark for Dreadpool to reach the end of. 

The winner is The Batman Who Laughs

Next Time

Korra vs Rey
(Avatar vs Star Wars)

Sourcelist:

• G1’s Moon Knight vs Azrael Blog 

• Loka's Deadshot vs Bullseye Blog

• Saul VS’ Mysterio vs Scarecrow Blog

• Bang’s Clayface vs Sandman Blog

• Axpire’s Mr. Freeze vs Amelia Hughes Blog

• Dreadpool Respect Thread by u/MrMark1337

• Deadpool Respect Thread by u/Godofyawn

• The Batman Who Laughs Respect Thread by u/Ame-no-nobuko

• Batman Respect Thread by u/Ame-no-nobuko

• Various other Marvel/DC Respect Threads 

• The DC Comics Database

• The Marvel Comics Database